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RNC: Fla primary will remain winner-take-all for delegates
St. Petersburg Times ^ | 1/3/2012 | Adam C. Smith

Posted on 01/03/2012 1:43:15 PM PST by Happy Valley Dude

There's been a fair amount of chatter/concern that the importance of Florida's Republican primary could be dramatically diluted if the RNC further penalizes the state for its early primary by allocating its delegates proportionally, rather than winner-take-all. After all, divvying up 50 delegates four or five ways would make the state a lot smaller prize for the winner.

On a conference call with reporters today, however, RNC officials all but dismissed the prospects for Florida losing its winner-take-all status. As it is the state's number of delegates will be slashed from 99 to 50, and there is no mechanism to restore those delegates later, RNC officials said.

The party's rules committee will meet in New Orleans in January and may consider added penalties for states that violated the officially sanctioned schedules - such as lousy seating, limiting floor passes or VIP passes - but the Rules Committee has no say over the delegate allocation.

There remains a possibility that someone could file a contest challenging the allocation of delegates, but that wouldnt even be taken up until summer.

Florida by the way, is not the only state losing delegates for busting the schedule. So will New Hampshire (cut to 13), South Carolina (cut to 25); Arizona (cut to 29); and Michigan (cut to 39). Other states, such as Iowa, Maine, Colorado, and Missouri won't lose delegates despite earlier-than-allowed elections because their elections will be non-binding.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2012; election; fl; florida; floridaprimary; lautenberg; newt; reasonableguncontrol; riggedforromney; stenchofromney
Due to the winner-take-all nature of FL's primary and the size of the state, whoever wins the primary on January 31 will have a majority of awarded delegates to date.
1 posted on 01/03/2012 1:43:17 PM PST by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Iowa gets 23 delegates. All this for 23 delegates? Wow! And not winner takes off. Well the only good to come from it is President Santorum will have even more exposure and money rolling in after the win.


2 posted on 01/03/2012 1:50:45 PM PST by napscoordinator (A miracle is happening before our eyes! The ONLY MORAL CONSERVATIVE!!! Rick Santorum 2012!!!!!)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

This is big news for Newt!


3 posted on 01/03/2012 1:50:56 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Newt surge!!!


4 posted on 01/03/2012 1:53:05 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

I like the proportional representation rather than winner-take-all approach because the winner-takes-all favors an establishment/CINO candidate who enters with a lot of money and establishment endorsements (like Bush/Romney). The establishment likes to get the contest over early by a knock-out punch in the first few states that will cut off fundraising for the early losers.


5 posted on 01/03/2012 1:57:07 PM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: JulieRNR21; kinganamort; katherineisgreat; floriduh voter; summer; Goldwater Girl; windchime; ...

Florida Freeper


6 posted on 01/03/2012 2:00:33 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: cornfedcowboy
This is big news for Newt!

How so? Romney is the best bet to win Florida -- there is no recent polling, but the latest from mid-December had Romney up a point on Gingrich, with Newt dropping. It's bad news for conservatives since a prolonged contest favors us.

7 posted on 01/03/2012 2:12:15 PM PST by Crichton
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To: Crichton

Cain is on the ballot here in FL. Lot of folks like him. Might be interesting!


8 posted on 01/03/2012 2:29:14 PM PST by goodtomato (I'm really, really blessed! WWW.MIKEMcCALISTERFORSENATE.COM check him out!)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

GO NEWT!


9 posted on 01/03/2012 2:44:23 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Crichton

“How so? Romney is the best bet to win Florida.”

What you smoking, I wan’t some!


10 posted on 01/03/2012 2:53:45 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: cornfedcowboy; TitansAFC; rodguy911; katiedidit1; Gator113; mojitojoe

My prayers belong to Newt Gingrich!


11 posted on 01/03/2012 3:08:29 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Parley Baer

I hope Newt spends his time and money in South Carolina and Florida.

The heck with New Hampshire.


12 posted on 01/03/2012 3:09:49 PM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Doesn’t that mean that the RNC is breaking its rules and making a special exception for Florida despite its flouting the RNC rules?


13 posted on 01/03/2012 3:23:32 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: SharpRightTurn

“I like the proportional representation rather than winner-take-all approach because the winner-takes-all favors an establishment/CINO candidate who enters with a lot of money and establishment endorsements (like Bush/Romney). The establishment likes to get the contest over early by a knock-out punch in the first few states that will cut off fundraising for the early losers.”

The winner-takes-all states also retain more punch with a united delegation, but my state was changed from winner-take-all over to proportional due to some rule changes made by the RNC (allegedly - it takes some research to find out exactly what happened.) Also, we were changed from a Super Tuesday state to an April primary by two federal judges. And this is a state with more delegates than yours even if you hadn’t been penalized!


14 posted on 01/03/2012 3:24:23 PM PST by ngat
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To: Happy Valley Dude

Screw Iowa and NH.

South Carolina and Florida will determine the GOP nominee.


15 posted on 01/03/2012 3:29:31 PM PST by floridarunner01
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16 posted on 01/03/2012 3:40:03 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: 9YearLurker

Yes. But what do you want the RNC to do? If they come down hard and punish Florida, while the Democrats go down there and wine and dine everyone and make lots of promises....you are playing a very dangerous game. Those 29 electoral votes are critically important. The electoral math becomes extremely difficult if Obama holds Florida.


17 posted on 01/03/2012 3:55:14 PM PST by floridarunner01
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To: floridarunner01

Then they shouldn’t enforce the penalties on the other states and, while we’re at it, they shouldn’t have rules they aren’t willing to enforce.

Are Floridians really going to vote for Obama because the RNC followed through on its rules? Don’t they already have the idiotic gift of holding the national convention there during hurricane season?


18 posted on 01/03/2012 4:02:50 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Crichton

After Newt wins SC, of course he wins Florida. Period.

Screw the pols that say otherwise — because the conservative vote will be split MUCH less after Perry and Bachmann fail to make it out of Iowa today.

In Newt versus Willard (I doubt Santorum or Paul will be big factors in SC & FL) contests, Newt demolishes the liberal in disguise - Willard.


19 posted on 01/03/2012 4:22:56 PM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: 9YearLurker

Well lets back up for a second here...

Technically they are punishing all the states that are in January...except Iowa which is not allocating any delegates tonight so they are exempt from RNC rules.

New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Florida have their delegates cut in half. The RNC rules say that all contests before April 1st must be given proportional. Florida decided to go against it and make it winner-take-all. The RNC can punish the number of delegates (cut in half), but according to the rules committee, the party cannot enforce how a state divides up their delegates. So technically the April 1st thing is a rule that cannot be enforced.

It’s very likely SC and NH could have gone to winner-take-all too and the RNC would not be able to do anything. It is an unenforceable rule.

I would agree with others the whole primary process is out of date and needs to be changed. Perhaps some kind of rotating system needs to be put in place. But that’s sort of beyond the scope of this discussion right now.


21 posted on 01/03/2012 5:20:06 PM PST by floridarunner01
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To: floridarunner01

Interesting, thanks.


22 posted on 01/03/2012 5:39:06 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: william Ington

[ This is an insidious trick used by the left wing of the party to continue power. It was devised by the Rockefeller wing after 1964 to keep conservatives from winning the nomination. It was used effectively to propel McCain to the nomination splitting the conservative vote into smaller divisions so he got all delegates with as little as 20% of the primary vote. This procedure will favor Romney and disenfranchises most of us. It should not be tolerated.]

True words indeed. The left and rino right have gone over into moral depravity leading to the condemnation of economic collapse and finally poverty and starvation.


23 posted on 01/04/2012 4:59:44 AM PST by kindred (wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ ...)
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To: floridarunner01

[ Florida decided to go against it and make it winner-take-all. The RNC can punish the number of delegates (cut in half), but according to the rules committee, the party cannot enforce how a state divides up their delegates. So technically the April 1st thing is a rule that cannot be enforced.]

Good indeed. Seems the power mongers of DC government of both parties are trying to influence the outcome of the primaries so their pick wins. Communist left is long gone and rino right is right behind them. The states must search the Constitution and take their inalienable rights to themselves lest the federal government become just another world dictatorship and the American peoples slaves as in all despotic countries.
May the good Lord Jesus, the Christ of God, help the remaining conservatives to keep America free, despite our sins being piled up to the heavens.


24 posted on 01/04/2012 5:07:03 AM PST by kindred (wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ ...)
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To: william Ington
This is an insidious trick used by the left wing of the party to continue power. It was devised by the Rockefeller wing after 1964 to keep conservatives from winning the nomination.

Actually, it is an insidious trick used by the Florida Republican Party to ensure that the leading candidates pay as much attention as possible to Florida. It's the same reason that they moved the primary to January 31.
25 posted on 01/04/2012 6:06:08 AM PST by Happy Valley Dude
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To: Happy Valley Dude

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26 posted on 01/04/2012 8:32:39 AM PST by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!Jesus is Lord!)
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