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Joe Scarborough And Panelists Clash Over GOP ‘Delegitimizing’ Barack Obama

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On Monday’s Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough and The New Yorker’s David Remnick found themselves disagreeing over negative, partisan treatment of former presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and current president Barack Obama.

“The White House does not realize now and the President does not realize right now that his mere re-election will not make the Republicans find him to be any more legitimate than Bill Clinton’s re-election made him legitimate,” said Scarborough. “And they’re actually believing right now — I know this, and you probably know this — they actually believe ‘if we win this second time, then they’re going to look at us as a legitimate force.’ I’ve been told that by people really high up in the White House. And it doesn’t work that way.”

“In the Republican party you do see these — or at least the right wing of the Republican party — a real denial of legitimacy,” replied Remnick.

“I saw that,” said Scarborough. “I don’t want to get into this, but I saw that for George W. Bush from the left wing.” He added that “Republicans treated Bill Clinton terribly for eight years,” so “Democrats got back at George W. Bush by treating him terribly for eight years. Republicans will do the same towards Barack Obama.”

“There’s a difference, though,” Remnick insisted. “The Republicans treated Bill Clinton terribly on an impeachment scandal about which we all know. The Democrats we’re having at the Bush administration, for the most part, on policy.”

“That is not true,” said Nicolle Wallace, who has worked on campaigns for both John McCain and George W. Bush. “I mean, Barack Obama won and his first act as President was to announce to a meeting of congressional leaders, ‘I won and I’m going to ram through the stimulus that I want.’ He set the tone when it comes to governing by the way that he went about with his first and signature step to try to heal the economy.”

“But it’s not just that republicans didn’t question his legitimacy,” she added. “In fact, I worked for the losing candidate in ’08, who had a lot to do with setting a tone of embracing the new President as entirely legitimate.”

Wallace and Remnick then argued over how John McCain and G.W. Bush handled Obama’s presidential win, with Wallace saying this time was marked by one of the most “graceful concessions in modern times.” Remnick agreed on that point, adding that the problem does not lie within the Republican party as a whole.

Have a look, via MSNBC:

  • Anonymous

    The Democrats will do anything the government unions ask, because (1) It’s not their money they’re spending, it’s the taxpayers’; and (2) Government unions reciprocate by making sure the Democrats keep getting re-elected.

  • Anonymous

    Remnick  is correct, the double standard the republicans demand is pretty obvious.

  • Linda Perry

    And once again, Joe Scar was lying without any examples.  He was an actual participant in impeaching Bill Clinton.  JS then had affairs and divorced his 1st wife and married the one he had an affair with.  He had an aide die in his FL office.  Facts.

    SC, after SCOTUS stooped the FL count on Dec 9, 2000.  Dems helped Bush pass the No Child left behind and Medicare Part D which many of them didn’t like.  They could have made Bush’s life a living hell.  They didn’t.  They didn’t as a party going around from state to state undermining Bush.  They didn’t have Dem govs stop No Child left behind from being implemented.  They didn’t introduce bills trying in states about SCOTUS rule.  They didn’t question his legitimacy.  After 9-11, even with a PDB, OSL is prepared to attack USA, the Dems as a party worked with Bush, even though Bush made the issue political.  JS is a lying SOB.

    His show is the ONLY show on MSNBC where lies are spoken and not vetted.  Phil griffin, the pres Of that network has refused to make facts a must on that show.  Dems should really stop showing up on that show.  Today was a fest of nothing but GOP and as always the bashing of pres Obama.

    Last; on Jan 20, 2009, Frank Luntz, Eric Cantor, Newt Gingrich had a 4 hours meeting to undermine and defeat pres Obama.  That was Never done by Dems.  They started from they one.  JS knew this and he and his show flat out left that off and Once again, lied to their audience.

  • Anonymous

     “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia on June 13th 2008.
    ** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
    ** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
    ** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Punch Back Twice As Hard”
    ** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
    ** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
    ** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
    ** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
    ** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”
    “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your
    neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or
    whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in
    their face.”
    ** “Punish your enemies.” Obama to Latino supporters.
    ** “I’m itching for a fight.” Obama to Democrats in a speech. ~ Obama
    ** A Republican victory would mean hand to hand combat.” Obama


  • http://truth-and-opinion.dyndns.org/ mavigozler

    In this era of ideology and not statesmanship, the Democrats cave when the Republican in the White House insists he has a mandate.  Remember Bush in 2004 when he said he had some political capital and he was determined to spend it?

    Don’t expect the droolers in the House, should they retain the majority, to yield on Obama’s agenda. Even though Obama can claim a mandate just the same with a second term.

    And the Democrats in the Senate will probably not get a 60-vote majority, so they will just have to put an end once and for all to the filibuster, or modify it to make it a 55-vote majority (in case they fear trodding on tradition), which has been done before.

    Boehner should know that there will be hell to pay in 2014 if the House continues to remain obstinate.  And it will be the Republicans paying.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3EV7LMBN3SWQMEVDJCAKUCTCKM Top

     Sure thing.

    Wall Street is up to their eyeballs on gubimmint unions.

  • Anonymous

     The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday
    shows Mitt Romney attracting 47% of the vote, while President Obama
    earns 44%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and four
    percent (4%) are undecided.

  • Anonymous

    Democrats have been seeing Medicare-based attacks as a path to electoral success for 40 years. It’s time to pay for the thousands of ads accusing us of moral turpitude, selfishness, and hatred of the elderly.(*) Democrats have opposed our nominees (Robert Bork,…). Democrats screwed us when we compromised on tax and deficit reduction. You wanted a fight, now you’ll get it. We will not compromise with such Democrats. And we will primary Republicans who compromises with you.

    (*) http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/the-fog-of-mediscare/

  • The Real Royal Emperor

     A whole heapin’ helpin’ of paranoia there.

    Thanks for playing.

    We have a lovely parting gift for you.

  • http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ CyberForce

    He should have used the couple of months we had the filibuster proof majority to govern like that.

    Unfortunately he, Pelosi and Reid let that slip through his fingers.

    Assuming we get another bite at the apple, hopefully he and they learned their lesson and tell the Republican’s to go f*ck themselves.

    Cause you know damned well if they win in November that’s exactly what they will be telling us, because they don’t even have a majority and that’s their demeanor.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

     I agree. The lack of reciprocity is largely our fault. If it were the first move in a return to civility, I’d be all for it. However, the last things the Republicans want is civil discourse.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

     Remnick stopped Mr. Scarborough’s constant interruptions and loud talking-over. It was pretty breathtaking.

  • Anonymous

    Where’s Fat Joe’s grubby sweatshirt?

  • The Real Royal Emperor

     Please! Commentary! Fact is, you Republicans play to suit. Remember the ad of Ryan pushing the elderly woman over a cliff. So close to the truth that you guys squealed like stuck pigs.

  • http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ CyberForce

    Be sure to take that Rasmussen poll to the bank.

    The bank of Athens, that is.  :)

  • The Real Royal Emperor

     Not to worry my friend. The weekend before the election Rasmussen will show a miraculous shift, in conformity with the other polls, and will then proclaim how it is the most accurate. Happens every cycle. Willard’s cap is 46%. Miraculous how everything centers on and returns to that number.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

     It was a terrible mistake by Reid. I wish the Republicans had had enough sense to nominate someone with a bit of sense and sanity to run against him. He would have been gone.

  • Anonymous

     Everything yo said is correct and Nicolle Wallace lied through her teeth when she said the gop has not tried to delegitimize the President. They couldn’t even wait until the inauguration party was over before they met to undermine the President. Before day one even started they had already planned to try and destroy him rather than even consider working with him to help the American people and the economy.

  • http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ CyberForce

    It’s not likely we will lose the Senate.  It is likely, because Harry Reid has already said as much that the filibuster will go bye-bye in January.

    We need 25 seats in the House, which isn’t entirely undo-able especially since the DNC strategy will have to rotate to the House of Representatives as being “do nothing” much the same way that Truman was written off, but managed to kick Dewey’s ass due to the fact that the Congress was despised more for deliberately obstructing government.

    More will become apparent when we get to the point in the game where Republican’s will have to run on being more than “anti-Obama” and actually explain with specificity exactly what they intend to do if they are elected to govern. 

  • Anonymous

    When you look at past performance (policy) there’s not  a dimes worth of difference between Obama and Romney.

  • The Real Royal Emperor

     I liked that comment very much.

  • http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ CyberForce

    I don’t know what the folks in Nevada see in him.  Never have, really. 

  • Anonymous

    Looks like Obama lied about his ties to the socialist, extreme left wing New Party that he said in 2008 he was not involved with 
    http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/obama-and-the-new-party. More vetting that was not done in 2008.

  • Anonymous

    “rather than even consider working with him to help the American people and the economy”

    How is it possible to work with him ? We have two irreconcilable philosophies. It’s just impossible. Look… The House passed more than 30 job bills (all were killed in the Senate), we voted the Ryan Budget, we voted for Cut Cap & Balance, we repealed Obamacare, we voted for No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act and Protect Life Act, we voted to protect marriage when you are for homosexuality… 

    I won’t blame you for opposing all of this. It’s natural. You were not going to vote for Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act. So, for the same reasons, you should show more respect.

  • http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ CyberForce

     Thanks for another buzzfeed link that I won’t bother to click on.

  • Anonymous

    “He should have used the couple of months we had the filibuster proof majority to govern like that”

    LOLThe Democratic Party is not as liberal as Obama and his base.

    He has to govern as a moderate. Just like Clinton But it’s not because they fear what Fox News may say, or because they want to be postpartisan. Only idiots from Thinkprogress, the Nation and MSNBC believe that. It’s because he does not have the votes for liberalism in its own coalition. Liberals are a tiny minority of the population (although they are strong and vocal in the media and in Hollywood), but the Democratic Party is mostly moderate. And they need the money of big wealthy donors and businessmen.

  • Anonymous

    Enough is enough. The birther nonsense and cries from Republicans everywhere that Obama is not “legitimate” need to be stopped. The GOP and conservatives ought to be ashamed of themselves for continuing to engage in this racist attack on the president. There is no indication that anything will ever be able to stop it, because Republicans appear incredulous that they are to be expected to understand the facts and accept reality. This fantasy will never go away so long as Republicans want to score points with their party’s deluded base.     www.sunstateactivist.org

  • Anonymous

    The “do nothing” House passed (most of the legislation passed so far is languishing in the Senate — much like budget prospects under the current leadership) :

    H.R. 872, Reducing Regulatory Burdens Act of 2011 (Rep. Gibbs) – passed the House 292-130 on March 31, 2011. 
    H.R. 910, Energy Tax Prevention Act of 2011 (Rep. Upton) – passed the House 255-172 on April 7, 2011. 
    H. J. Res. 37, Net Neutrality (Rep. Walden) – passed the House 240-179 on April 8, 2011.
    H. Con. Res. 34, House Republican Budget (Rep. Ryan) – passed House 235-193 on April 15, 2011.
    H.R. 1230, Restarting American Offshore Leasing Now Act (Rep. Hastings) – passed House 266-149 on May 5, 2011.
    H.R. 1229, Putting the Gulf of Mexico Back to Work Act (Rep. Hastings) – passed House 263-163 on May 11, 2011.
    H.R. 1231, Reversing President Obama’s Offshore Moratorium Act (Rep. Hastings) – passed House 243-179 on May 12, 2011.
    H.R. 2021, Jobs and Energy Permitting Act of 2011 (Rep. Gardner) – passed House 253-166 on June 22, 2011.
    H.R. 2018, Clean Water Cooperative Federalism Act of 2011 (Rep. Mica) – passed the House 239-184 on July 13, 2011.
    H.R. 1315, Consumer Financial Protection Safety and Soundness Improvement Actof 2011 (Rep. Duffy) – passed House 241-173 on July 21, 2011. 
    H.R. 1938, North American-Made Energy Security Act(Rep. Terry) – passed House 279-147-1 on July 26, 2011
    H.R. 2587, Protecting Jobs from Government Interference Act (Rep. Scott) – passed House 238-186 on September 15, 2011.
    H.R. 2401, Transparency in Regulatory Analysis of Impacts Nation (TRAIN) Act (Rep. Sullivan) – passed House 249-169 on September 23, 2011.
    H.R. 2681, Cement Sector Regulatory Relief Act (Rep. Sullivan) – passed House 262-161 on October 6, 2011.
    H.R. 2433, Veterans Opportunity to Work Act (Rep. Jeff Miller) – passed House 418-6 on October 12, 2011.
    H.R. 2250, EPA Regulatory Relief Act (Rep. Griffth) – passed House 275-142 on October 13, 2011.
    H.R. 2273, Coal Residuals Reuse & Management Act (Rep. McKinley) – passed House 267-144 on October 14, 2011.
    H.R. 674, to repeal the imposition of 3 percent withholding on certain payments made to vendors by government entities (Rep. Herger) – passed the House 405-16 on October 27, 2011.
    H.R. 2930, Entrepreneur Access to Capital Act (Rep. McHenry) – passed House 407-17 on November 3, 2011.
    H.R. 2940, Access to Capital for Job Creators Act (Rep. McCarthy) – passed House 413-11 on November 3, 2011.
    H.R. 3094, Workforce Democracy and Fairness Act (Rep. Kline) – passed House 235-188 on November 30, 2011.
    H.R. 527, Regulatory Flexibility Improvements Act (Rep. Smith) – passed House 263-159 on December 1, 2011.
    H.R. 3010, Regulatory Accountability Act (Rep. Smith) – passed House 253 – 167 on December 2, 2011.
    H.R. 10, Regulations From the Executive in Need of Scrutiny (REINS) Act (Rep. Davis) – passed House 241 – 184 on December 7, 2011.
    H.R. 1633, Farm Dust Regulation Prevention Act (Rep. Noem) – passed House 268 – 150 on December 8, 2011.
    H.R. 3630, Middle Class Tax Relief and Job Creation Act (Rep. Camp) – passed House 293 – 132 on February 17, 2012.
    H.R. 3606, Jumpstart Our Business Startups (JOBS) Act (Rep. Fincher) – passed House 390 – 23 on March 8, 2012.
    H.Con.Res. 112, House Budget Resolution for fiscal year 2013 (Rep. Ryan) – passed House 228- 191 on March 29, 2012.
    H.R. 9, Small Business Tax Credit Act (Rep. Cantor) – passed House 235- 173 on April 19, 2012

    Worth noting is the fact that House Republicans have been focused on job creation since the historic November 2010 elections:

    - House Republicans prevented President Obama and Congressional Democrats from enacting the largest tax increase in American history.

    - In January 2011, House Republicans voted to repeal the job-killing Obama health care law and passed legislation to overturn the “1099 requirement” that would have crushed small businesses by requiring excessive documentation to the IRS for each business expense.

    - House Republicans passed bills to roll back the President’s job-killing greenhouse gas regulations and an attempt to regulate the Internet – a great source of ingenuity, entrepreneurship and jobs, as well as bills to responsibly increase domestic energy production- House Republicans have also been focused on cutting government spending and getting our debt and deficit under control. Economists around the nation continue to highlight reforming government and reducing debt as way to increase investor and consumer confidence.

  • Anonymous

    Obama doesn’t govern like a liberal unless Reagan was a far-left president, too. He gave the country McCain’s cap-and-trade program, Bush’s tax cuts, Romney’s healthcare plan instead of his (he wanted public option… libs wanted single payer), an expansion of the drone program, and reduced the expansion of government. Reagan raised taxes 12 or 13 times, increased the size of government, tripled the national debt, and raised the now-dreaded debt ceiling 18 times. As a non-partisan conservative-leaning observer, I’m confused. Things have become so tribal that Obama’s actions are “ultra-liberal” but Reagan is patron saint of the GOP. Truth should stand on its own.

  • http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ CyberForce

    I believe you are mistaken about how much patience moderates who support the President, have left with regards to the wingnuts throwing sand in the gears.

    Given the opportunity, if we don’t achieve what we want to this go round, then we absolutely have no one else to blame other than ourselves.

  • Anonymous

    buzzfeed?……LOL…….Why not just link to the RNC.

  • http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ CyberForce

    The House has refused to negotiate in good faith, which is why the bills are sitting in the Senate.

    The American people will not buy obstructionism as a method of governing, no matter how you try to spin it.  And the House has been very vocal about it’s “no compromises” stance to the point of gaining much publicity.

    When House members are back in their districts trying to explain to their constituents that they tried to pass legislation, but refusing to do the work of negotiation and that has equated to their constituents personal lives not improving, they aren’t going to say . . . “great, stick to your guns, I don’t care if I never have a job.”

    Doesn’t work that way.

    There were 66 tea party members elected in 2010.  That’s 66 freshmen Congressmen who are going back to their districts with nothing to show for their work.

    Try to sell that. “We Stopped Obama” doesn’t put food on tables.

  • Anonymous

    First, I don’t like your tone. If you want us to compromise with you, you should begin to show more respect for us and our ideas.

    Obviously, you have not read Obama. Read his books. All his political life has been a fight against the philosophy of Ronald Reagan. He IS a liberal. But he did govern as a moderate. Indeed. That’s what I wrote. But that’s only because he did not have the votes in his own party. And why is that so ? It is thanks to our resolute opposition, our strategy on public opinion, our refusal to compromise,… For instance, he initially rejected Simpson-Bowles before moving to the right in his negations with John Boenher. So… If you are a moderate independent, you should thank us. If you are a liberal, you should admire us and imitate us (your politicans despise you, and you don’t even try to primary them).

    And don’t invoke Ronald Reagan anymore. He had a hostile Congress, he agreed to raise taxes only in exchange for spending reductions (he did not get those, because Democrats were liars). He was naive. We are not.

  • Anonymous

    Adding the words “to create jobs” (or something similar) to the end of a bunch of bills gutting regulations or cutting or eliminating taxes does NOT make something a “jobs bill.”

    You can put a whore in a habit, but that doesn’t make her a nun.

  • Anonymous

     ”Meticulous attention,” the president insisted in 1937, “should be paid to the special relations and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the Government….The process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service.” The reason? F.D.R. believed that “[a] strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent on their part to obstruct the operations of government until their demands are satisfied. Such action looking toward the paralysis of government by those who have sworn to support it is unthinkable and intolerable.”

  • Linda Perry

     Fact of the matter documented in a book that on Jan 21, 2009, Eric cantor, Gops leaders along with Frank Lund met a hotel to discuss how they will make President Obama a one time President. It is time the news media call this GOPs out  and inform the american people about it period..

  • Anonymous

    Republicans are being “partisan” when they refuse to “compromise”. There will be no republican votes to increase taxes to pay for higher spending. When Romney is president, will you “compromise” on how to repeal the job-killing Obamacare ? Please be serious. In 2009, we compromised (you get some things, and we prevented a tax increase), but when you put taxes on the table it’s not a compromise. Low taxes are our most important single issue. You won’t screw us anymore like you did under Reagan and Bush.

    By the way, even Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi started backpedaling on taxes, because everybody know that after the election we’ll get a true compromise (a grand bargain which will extend Bush tax cuts).

  • Liberal_Bias_Myth

    So true but don’t tell them that Obama hasn’t been the so-called far left president that propagandists on the right claim.

    This is one of my favorite videos

    Reagan raised taxes every year from 1981-87. 
    He even raised corporate taxes.

    Reagan supported gun control. Brady Act 

    Has Obama took anybody’s guns yet? 
    Don’t tell that to the NRA, they profit off of fear.

    Reagan gave amnesty to 3 million immigrants.

    Reagan also signed the United Nations Convention Against Torture which stated torture cannot be used under any circumstances.

    Reagan also signed the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty which is similar to Obama’s START but Republicans seem to forget about the liberal actions of Saint Ronny.

    Reagan even blamed Jimmy Carter just like Obama blamed Bush but when Obama does it he’s not taking “personal responsibility.”

    Compare Reagan’s actions and Obama’s actions and we’ll see who was more liberal. The Reagan myth will continue to live.

  • Anonymous

    Why to create jobs when you think that “the private sector economy is doing fine”The remark on Friday paints a candid picture of his view of his economic record. A self-drawn portrait that is indeed “fine”, perhaps even verging on quite good ; it’s premises are recited as an article of faith by Democratic loyalists on every level. Only Bill Clinton had the courage to say that the economy was not so fine and to depart from Team Obama (by linking  tax cuts and business investment). Although he does not seem so brave today.

  • Anonymous

    I know, I know. Context is hard.

  • Anonymous

    Liberal_Bias_Myth Collapse : if Reagan is a lefty compared to Obama, why do liberals love Obama and despise Reagan ? It does not make a lot of sense, unless you are partisans too. When Reagan was president, he was ridiculed and mocked by you.

    Don’t you see the irony : a) if Obama is actually a Republican, and b) recovery/economy is quite fine under Obama, it means that c) Republican policies are good policies.

  • Anonymous

    It’s an open issue whether Brick OBAMO has been ‘delegitimized. It begs the question, “How ‘legitimate’ has he ever been in the first place?”

    But the one person truly delegitimized, and it’s a great thing, too, is Nan Pelosi.

  • Liberal_Bias_Myth

    @Clap I can’t speak for those on the left who mocked Reagan but I don’t hate Reagan. I was a child during his presidency. What I hate is the Reagan worshipers who don’t want to admit Reagan wasn’t as conservative as many claim. All I’m saying is compare Obama’s policies and Reagan’s policies because propagandists will tell you Obama is the most “liberal” president ever. Obama has actually ran the country as a moderate, if you do your own research. Obama has been more of a neocon on foreign policy which is disappointing. I’m not claiming Obama has ran the country as a Republican(except for NDAA and Patriot Act 11) but it’s better when any president runs the country as a moderate. There are blind partisan sheep on both sides who don’t take the time to research and instead listen to the propagandists.

    There are many on the left who do not consider Obama a real progressive. Romney and Obama have a lot in common and we’re left with our individual views of the lesser of two evils. I actually considered voting for Gary Johnson since Democrats and Republicans have been governing so similar on the national level.

    I’ll give both sides credit and blame when they deserve it because I’m not blinded by partisanship.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_45S32GWGDRUJIL6E2U4HOZW4BM Bob

    Is this MSNBC in a parallel universe? Because Noah’s story that’s headlining Mediaite claims MSNBC is all-lib’rul, all the time.
    Guess Joe didn’t get the memo.

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  • Anonymous

    The fact is that the tone set by Obama (“I won”) didn’t help. Linda, I have nothing against you, but we will continue to fight your ideology and your policies, and to primary the establishment republicans. That’s politics. Inform the american people about it : we fight Obama, and we’re proud of it. We have our own nominee, it’s Mitt Romney.


  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    We all saw it, it was on FOX.

    We approve.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    My rep better not be looking to compromise with these filthy anti american liberals in 13.

    Stick it to em, investigate everything.

    Ridicule and deligitimize every single D in DC.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Neil-Murphy/100000566621491 Neil Murphy

    Because you already know hes a socialist and you like it. You just dont want the sheep to know.

  • Anonymous

    The top one percentshare of real income growth is increasing with each economic expansion & it matters not whether the president is a Democrat or Republican. The top one percent enjoyed 45 percent of Clinton-era income growth, 65 percent of Bush-era growth & 93 percent of Obama-era growth, though that is only through 2011. While markets are a factor, I think the evidence makes clear that government policy is at the core of the differing fortunes of the vast majority & the super-rich. while Obama called Wall Street executives fat cats, he with minimal exceptions, has surrounded himself with financial insiders. His administration has failed to prosecute the central figures in the frauds that created our economic distress.

  • mac691

     No Child is more Kennedy than Bush.   If anything, Bush was reaching out to Kennedy and the Dems, and he was paid back by Kennedy, in typical fashion, called him a liar and a killer.

  • Anonymous

    he was talking about the primetime lineup

  • Miranda

    Nicolle Wallace? *snicker*

  • Anonymous

     A cynic might suggest that the more we hear from the crazies over the next five months, the better it will be for Obama with the narrow slice of independent voters in the middle who may well decide the presidential election and, in the tiny minority of congressional districts that have not been gerrymandered to ensure one-party dominance, the future of Congress as well.

  • Anonymous

     Rational political observers know that Obama is a center-left president whose main failures have come from attempts to compromise with an opposition party that thinks bipartisanship means the Democrats adopting Repub policies (except of course when they actually do, in which case the policy magically changes in nature, as from a Rmoney-backed conservative alternative to Clinton health-care reform to a socialist takeover of health care which is indubitably unconstitutional).  Unfortunately, since the corporate media is filled with stenographers instead of journalists, there are few if any rational political observers in communication with the electorate, so who knows what will happen in November.

  • Anonymous

    Neil says “Ridicule and deligitimize every single D in DC.”  West wants to deport the communist Dems.  They both seem to agree that a benevolent dictatorship through one-party rule of federal, state and local governments by the GOTP is the best thing that could happen to us.  Not surprising that many of us disagree and will continue to call out an opposition party that refuses to compromise in the interest of all the people in a transparently deliberate scheme to win power by making a majority of the electorate feel miserable in their economic circumstances.  That being the case, I highly doubt that there are any Repubs at the state or federal level that deserve any of my votes.  The local level is another story, since we’ve had one-party rule already for the past two years, and the local Dem party is in shambles. Besides, we still have a few reasonable RINO’s in local government who are friends of mine and may well win my vote.

  • Anonymous

    … How convenient for Mediaite to cut the clip RIGHT at the moment where they were going to start to discuss the EXTREME LEFT WING of the DemoKKKratic party. You know, the one that compared GWB with Hitler, the devil, the one that threatened to assassinate him. “Libruls” have very frail memories. 

  • Anonymous

    Thank you… About time someone took the time to post this for Libtards and their phony sense of “Superior Civility.” 

  • Anonymous

    called him a liar and a killer.

    And he was 100% correct. He left out scumbag war criminal as well.

  • sharinite

     Why?   Did you and your side stop photoshopping Bush as Hitler?  Or, did you stop calling him a liar?  There is no GOP and/or conservative attack racially on Obama…for God’s sake, don’t be so stupid.  He is half white, after all and if the white voters hadn’t voted for him, he wouldn’t be President today.  I don’t care if has polka dots, purple people eaters….I hate his Socialist, progressive policies as does the country….are you blind, deaf and dumb?  Please…you do not know what facts are even when they slap you in the face!!!
    flprogressive…go back to 2007-08 and read the DailyKos, Huffington Post, Atrios, MyDD, Move.On, Media Matters…the come back here and tell me again who is the racist?  Who doesn’t know facts?  Who is hateful, ugly and crazy?

  • sharinite

     If you can let us all read his high school and college papers, I might think you had something…but they are sealed…wonder why?  Media?  What media….oh you mean that 98% who self admitted they are uber left wing nutroots?

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    I thought it was your uncle’s cousin.

  • Anonymous

    It’s pretty much the same with the repulsivans and the morons.
    They tell the morons what they want to hear, and the morons vote for them.

  • Anonymous

    “…the one that threatened to assassinate him.”

    Are you referring to the guy in Iraq who threw his shoes at Bush?

  • Jack Carlton

    You can lie and post all the out of context quotes you like, but it’s not going to convince anyone who isn’t already an indoctrinated right wing douchbag, because Americans don’t need you or your examples to know what Obama is like. We’ve all been watching him for five years, and we all know he’s simply not like the dishonest caricature you’re trying to paint with your lies and distortions.

    I’m not going to fact check your entire dishonest screed, but one example: The “whose ass to kick” comment was in reference to those responsible for the BP oil disaster — not “the private sector,” you dishonest liar.

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